We just adopted her from the Humane Society, and they sent her home with Science Diet Adult. She is going for her first checkup with our vet on Friday, and I really don’t think it’s that big of a deal.
We have their food in seperate rooms, and we only fill her bowl when it’s time to feed her. She…
Because vets do not recieve specialized feline nutritional training while in School. Vet schools allow the pet food industry to control what vets learn. Most vets get a one hour lecture on BOVINE, yes COW, nutrition during school. There are no focused classes about the special diet that the planets only obligate CARNIVORE, yes… MEAT eating cat, needs.
The best thing you can do is feed both cats a canned diet. Dry food in inappropriate for your cat and the complete reason your older cat is fat in the first place.
There is NO such thing as dry “diet” food for cats. Dry foods are filled with carbs that make your cat fat. You can’t make a dry food without carbs, so there are no dry diet foods.
The proper amount to feed per cat/per day should be about 5.5 ounces of wet (high quality grain free canned or Raw Meat/Bones/Organ) food.
The calories in that amount of food are sufficient for most “normal” sized cats. Of course a highly energetic cat will need more food to keep it healthy, and a lazy cat will need less food to keep it from getting obese. But 5.5 ounces of wet food per day is a good place to start.
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Cats were never meant to eat dry food, also known as cereals or kibble. We, humans, make them eat it for convenience to us. It has nothing to do with them or their nutritional needs. It’s completely species inappropriate.
In the wild, cats derive their entire liquid intake from their prey. They do not have a thirst mechanism because they don’t need it when eating a species appropriate diet. They get all they need from what they eat. So they do not drink water. Regular ol’ house cats have descended from those same wild cats.
So in a home environment, your kitty does not get the moisture it needs from dry food and it’s almost always in a constant state of dehydration. Water fountains are encouraged to TRY to get your cat to drink more and your kitty may even enjoy it, but it will never meet its water intake needs drinking from a bowl.
Deadly feline illnesses such as diabetes, kidney failure, obesity, allergies, Irritable Bowel Disease (IBD), bladder stones, kidney stones, urinary tract blockages and Urinary Tract Infections (FLUTD), with and without deadly crystals run rampant these days. Cats are not taking in enough water to stave them off. Proper water intake through a species appropriate diet alone can prevent most of these conditions.
Overall, wet is all around better for any cats diet, be it canned or Raw and they should never be fed dry cereal kibble if we wish to most closely match their wild nutritional and dietary needs. Kibble meets our needs… not our cats.
I agree with the others, get both of your cats on a healthier food. I know, it is tough to know what to do when your vet suggests a food, but look at the label.:
Chicken By-Product Meal, Brewers Rice, Corn Gluten Meal, Powdered Cellulose 18.8% (source of fiber), Chicken Liver Flavor, Soybean Oil
You aren’t feeding your cat anything that is nutritious. Chicken meal is rendered meat and isn’t nearly as good as plain old meat. Brewers rice is a cheap filler, corn is a known allergen and a cheap source of plant protein, cellulose is fibre which is a filler, and chicken liver flavor is..???
You are paying a lot to fill your cat with empty fillers. You’d do much better to feed a canned food high in protein and low in carbs. Carbs are what makes cats fat, and dry food can cause urinary issues, kidney problems and even diabetes.
Don’t just take our word for it, read what a vet has to say at www.catinfo.org
If you feed both of your cats, regardless of age, Wellness brand canned food twice a day, you will have healthy cats. Prescription diets and dry foods are horrible for your cats. Dry food dehydrates their insides and causes liver failure over time, along with a million other health problems. Prescription diets are full of chemicals and low grade meats. Regardless of age, Wellness brand is full of human grade meats and loaded with vitamins. I’ve seen it turn around the health of cats of every age. I do think they have a kitten one you could give your little one, but even the adult formula is better than other brands of kitten food. Additionally, feeding only twice a day is more normal to cats, as cats in the wild fast between meals. This will help both cats be the ideal weight. Trust me it will save you thousands on vet bills. Feel free to email me if you want to talk more about this.
Your kitten needs to be on KITTEN food for the first year, at least. They need the extra “growing” nutrition, that adult foods don’t have.
I have no idea why the H.S. sent adult food home with her, unless someone just wasn’t paying attention, or maybe they don’t have KITTEN food there!
OR, maybe they figure 10 mos is “close enough” to a year that it wouldn’t make any difference! But the KITTEN food TASTES BETTER than the adult (at least it smells better…..I haven’t actually tasted it!)
Put your kittens KITTEN food on the floor, in one room….put the RD food up high in another room. If your kitten figures out how to get UP to the RD, you’ll have to figure something else out.
BUT…….the KITTEN food, especially S.D.KITTEN is great. I’ve always “started” kittens on IAM’S KITTEN, because the kernels are smaller and easier for them to chew. But, when they get bigger (and your 10 mo old is big enough), I switch them to the S.D. KITTEN.
The S.D. KITTEN is a little larger, rounder, and oilier! Smells great, and my kittens always loved it. I even fed ALL of my cats the KITTEN food for years, while I had pregnant / lactating moms!
Your adult cat, that needs the RD, should NOT be eating the KITTEN food. You may have to fix somewhere that the younger (smaller ? ) one can get into for her food, that the older one can’t fit into. This may take some “thinking” on your part, but it IS necessary.
Tell you vet, when you take the kitten in on Friday, about the problems you’re having with the two cats and their food. Maybe the vet will have a solution for you.
Try putting them both on a feeding schedule where they eat twice daily. Right now, the kitten knows that the other food is available all the time so she’s more likely to be attracted to it because she knows it will be consistently available. If your older cat is accustomed to free-feeding, start by gradually reducing the amount of time that the food is out per day. This will help him adjust to the idea of a feeding schedule.
Many vets – yours included – are completely ignorant on the topic of proper cat nutrition. They’re taught that if a cat is suffering from urinary issues to reach for C/D. Weight problems? R/D or W/D or whatever.
They take no cat-specific nutrition classes. Well some do go out of their way but these are still sadly the minority.
That’s why your vet sold you that food. They’re not necessarily trying to scam you, they just don’t know any better.
What you should do is put both cats on canned food. That’ll take care of the weight loss for the older cat, and the kitten will thrive.
From my blog:
In a nutshell, most cats are fat because they’ve been fed too much (free-feeding or indulging them) and because they’re fed dry food which is NOT appropriate food for them due to the grain/carb/sugar content. Cats are obligate carnivores who need to eat a high meat-based protein diet, which is also high in fats and low in carbs.
Many vets, who are sadly ignorant on the topic of proper cat nutrition, will recommend prescription diet foods (usually dry). Cats are expected to lose weight on a starvation diet of 1/4 or 1/3 cup of food per day. Everyone is miserable in these situations.
The solution is to switch the fat cat (and any others in the household as well) to a good quality canned food. Because these foods are species appropriate, the cat will lose weight at a safe, slow pace (no more than 1 pound per month). Switching foods needs to occur slowly, and if you’re trying to get a kibble junkie to eat canned food, that will happen naturally.
How much should cats eat?
This varies. Average cats may eat between 20-30 calories per pound per day. But note that that is IDEAL pounds. Using 25 calories per day for example, an 8 pound cat could eat 200 calories per day. By the same token, a cat who weighs 20 pounds but should weigh 10 could eat 250 calories per day. You multiply the ideal weight by the calories to arrive at that figure. When working toward weight loss, it’s perhaps best to start at the lower end of the scale (20).
How do I find out how many calories are in cat food? See the link “Values in canned food.” If it’s not listed there, you’d need to contact the manufacturer…..I believe that link provides some help there as well.
That’s it. Easy as pie. Not only will fat cats lose weight, but it and any others in the home will reap many benefits of eating a speciies appropriate diet.
See the links below for detailed information on this topic.
UPDATE: Poppy lost 5 pounds and Sophie lost 2 following this plan (from October to October). Each cat gets one can (5.5oz) of Nature’s Variety Instincts per day. No one is starving or miserable. My vet is happy with her progress and so am I. Only 4 pounds to go!
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I have 10 incredibly healthy, show-quality cats of all ages and I feed them grocery-store discount brand canned food.
I dump it in a bowl and let them sort it out.
Prescription weight-loss cat food — give me a break.
swap out brown rice or quinoa yes even the new super food which both add up to about 220 calories per cup for cauliflower or roasted peppers that are only about 30 calories per cup
Before going to store to buy food items firts list them