Okay before any one freaks out I’m just going to say:
Just because someone is against gay MARRIAGE doesn’t mean they are against GAY PEOPLE. As a Christian we are taught to accept and love everyone, despite our differences.
But in the Bible it states:,
Leviticus 20:13 – “If a man lies with a man…
Thank you for having common sense.
Even though I’m a Christian, I will allow Gay Civil Unions, which are exactly and entirely the same thing as Gay Marriage, except in title. The reason for giving it the different title is that Marriage is a religious writ, and having it defined otherwise by the government would be a violation of the 1st Amendment, otherwise known as Separation of Church and State. The reason I’m willing to allow it as civil unions is because, well, does God strike gays down on sight? No? Then why should we? So long as they don’t call themselves Christians, it is not our responsibility to judge them. Let them live a life of sin as God does, if that is what they desire.
All I can say, you can explain things the way they really are with The Holy Spirit.
I just finish, telling off, one that talk about sexuality, without offering solution, but just to start
trouble, making Christians look bad.
Since, with God all things are possible, if the brain is wrong, God can correct it.
The attitude you have is correct, therefore, thank God, not a troll, talking just to create, sensationalism.
And with no, solutions, that line up, to the Gospel.
I am not for gay marriage, as long as I am a Christian, I have a responsibility to vote for people
that resist sin, and perversion or the place turns into sodom and Gomorrah.
Some are already, suggesting marriage between 3 homosexuals and the more the merrier.
I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, YOU EITHER, STAND FOR SOMETHING, OR FALL FOR EVERYTHING…
Corruption, knows no boundaries, give them a little, and they ask why, not more?
1. The law has nothing to do with your beliefs. The law is a secular human instrument, and our Constitution promises us all equality before the law.
2. Please read the Federalist Papers. Just because a majority of Americans say they are Christian does not mean their opinions can be used to deny equal rights to others. A majority of Americans probably believed that black Americans were less than human, or certainly less than white Americans at the end of the Civil War, for example. A majority of folks in many Southern States probably felt that allowing inter-racial marriage was against their Christian faith, and against the “natural order” of things, too, prior to the Loving vs. Virginia decision.
3. Actually, I have a hard time understanding how anyone who claims to be Christian can discriminate and deny equal rights to homosexual couples. Judge not…
Nowhere did Jesus say anything about homosexuality, for example. Leviticus, which you quote, also bans wearing mixed fibers and eating shellfish, right?
It is called free will. A Christian as well as anyone else has the right to view the world and support whatever they wish. I am a Christian that supports Gay marriage. It is their choice. We live in a fallen world, people cannot help it if they are Gay. Scientists have studied homosexuality and some of the people in their research have always associated themselves as gay or the opposite of what they are from the time of infancy. Sometimes it is nature and not nurture. That is between them and God and we should NOT interfere. Sure some people are Gay, but others may not be. Those others that are not gay still have a skeleton or two in their closet. “Let the person among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone.”
One of the principals the Christian faith is built upon is FREE WILL.
While it is fully true that the bible is against homosexuality, we have to remember that God supported free will. Christianity revolves around free-will and the ability to choose. The bible tells us to do many things, yet we don’t make all these things laws.
Why homosexual marriages over all the other commands in the bible? Is homosexual marriages more sinful than any other sin? Are we going to make Atheism and Islam illegal? Are we going to make it illegal to not give to the poor? Should we make it illegal when somebody doesn’t clothe a stranger, or give a homeless man food?
Of course not! So why homosexual marriages? What makes this sin any different than the others in the bible? God cherished free will, and we should too.
EDIT: Yes, I know the bible states homosexuality is wrong. I never said I thought otherwise. But the bible states many things are wrong. THe bible states not helping the poor is wrong, yet why is it not illegal to not help the poor? Because of free will.
It is not our place to enforce laws on things that will not harm others.
The truth is that Christianity comes in many varieties, but DISCIPLES of Christ have one path only and that is obedience to the Word of God — that is Jesus’ path. If you are a true disciple of Christ and if you REALLY love Him then you will keep His commandments. The Bible explains very clearly in John 14 that those who really love Christ are loved by His Father (God). If it is hard to read a whole chapter then start at 21,
Considering Christians come in so many varieties, the answer is yes. Until God shows up and declares which version of Christianity is the right one, each sect can make the claim to be right. I can list of a a ton of gay friendly churches. I know of a Christian Church that is headed by a woman married to another woman. YOU might claim she’s not really christian but I’m sure there are Christians who have decided their version of Christianity is the right one would claim YOU are not really a christian.
Anglican leaders from around the world reiterated their opposition to the “victimisation or diminishment” of gays and lesbians, saying demonising and persecuting them was “totally against Christian charity and basic principles of pastoral care”.
“We say that no one should have to live in fear because of the bigotry of others.”
The mormons poured millions into forcing through prop 8 in CA: to ban gay marriage. In August 2010 the court held that to be unconstitutional. On 15 June 2011 the San Francisco court upheld that decision because it violates the constitutional rights of citizens. It is now awaiting the Supreme Court verdict e which is expected to uphold the early court decision.
If that happens then gay marriage will become legal everywhere!
The loving god works in mysterious ways!
You can’t be a true Christian and be gay at the same time.
As you have shown in the scriptures. Jehovah God finds homosexuality gross and unacceptable.
Of course he is ready to forgive and desires all to repent. Now, we must remember to “love thy neighbor.” So because of our beliefs doesn’t mean we are bitter or rude to homosexuals. We just continue to Pray for them. People make so many excuses to get us to embrace homosexuality, but that is a trap from Satan.Example, people may have a gene that makes them aggressive, but they can choose not to murder someone. So if someone has a homosexual tendency, out of love for Jehovah God, they can choose to not live a gross lifestyle.Politicians and even fake church leaders are punishing the serious Christians because they don’t agree in saying homosexuality is okay.It’s like Sodom and Gomorrah all over again, but more gross.Now, we must still continue to give them love and kind manners, but it is sad because if they don’t change soon, and obey God’s Word and worship Jehovah God, then they will soon die along with Satan and those influenced by demons.
They will die along with the wicked and the unfaithful.
But in the meantime, be friendly and sweet to them, and treat them with kindness.
Just continue to Pray for them, it is all we can do.
There is NOTHING in the Bible that says homosexuality, in and of itself, as we understand it today, is wrong or sinful.
LEVITICUS: If you look at the entire chapters (18 & 20) that those two verses are placed you will find this — Leviticus 18:3 “You must not do as they do in Egypt, where you used to live, and you must not do as they do in the land of Canaan, where I am bringing you. Do not follow their practices.” and something similar in chapter 20. God is telling the Hebrews not to follow the WORSHIP practices of the Egyptians and Canaanites, which often included male prostitution and orgies. These chapters are condemning ritual sex as part of worship.
ROMANS — Romans 1:21-23 “21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.” These are the verses that come just before where Paul says God gave up on them and they started to do “unnatural” things. Look at the people Paul is talking about. Paul says that these people KNEW God, but worshiped idols anyways. It is these people that God gave up on, not people who know and worship Him (even those who happen to be gay).
Corinthians (and Timothy) — These verses are a little more tricky as they require an understanding of Ancient Greek. Paul uses the word “Arsenokoitai”, which is not found in any extant Greek writings until the second century when it apparently means “pederast”, a corrupter of boys, and again in the sixth century when it is used for husbands practicing anal intercourse with their wives. “Arsenokoitai” is made up of two parts: “arsen” means “man”; “koitai” means “beds.” Although the word in English Bibles is interpreted as referring to homosexuals, we can be fairly certain that this is not the meaning that Paul wanted to convey. If he had, he would have used the word “paiderasste.” That was the standard Greek term at the time for sexual behavior between males. We can conclude that he probably meant something different than people who engaged in male-male adult sexual behavior. Some scholars think probably the second century use might come closest to Paul’s intention. If so, there is no justification for translating the word as “homosexuals.”
God loves us as we are, He created us as we are for His purpose, and His purpose alone. You may not understand it, but that doesn’t make it a sin. John 3:16-18 clearly states that ALL who believe will be saved and are not condemned…. this includes homosexual believers.
As for marriage… what is the purpose of marriage? Is it to produce children? If so, then why do we let people who cannot have children marry (infertile people, or those past child bearing ages)? OR is it to acknowledge a bond between two people (above the age of consent) who mutually love and respect each other? If so, why do you limit who one can love and commit themself to?