Muslims are violent? look at the rest of us!!?

Honestly I think it is a tragic irony when people say this. Here are the facts…first of all historically muslim people have been constantly attacked quite violently and often with religion used as justification. and honestly muslims have shown amazing tolerance and patience towards such people, even when the…

@ Invisible talker – Just look around the world…

More than a hundred thousand Iraqis killed (according to conservative estimates) for the alleged possession of WMD’s by Saddam Hussein and his links with Al-Qaida. Neither of them had any credible evidence.

Taliban are labeled as terrorists just because they asked for the evidence that Bin Laden is behind the Sept 11 attacks.…

Israel continues to commit atrocities against Palestinians because no resolution is being agreed upon by the US which has unconditionally supported Israel for many years.
The U.S. used its veto to protect Israel from over forty condemnatory UNSC resolutions.…


Sura (8:55) Sura (48:29) Sura (9:30) as posted by a user don’t order Muslims to kill non Muslims.

Sura (5:33) – The punishment of those “WHO WAGE WAR” against Allah and His messenger…..

Regarding Surah: 8 Aya: 12
[Remember] when your Lord “INSPIRED TO THE ANGELS”, “I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip.”
This verse was revealed related the Battle of Badr, which occurred in Arabia in the early seventh century. A battle in which the pagans of Makkah traveled more than 200 miles to Madinah with an army of about 1000 to destroy Muslims.

Sura (9:123) O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness. And know that Allah is with the righteous.

This verse (Surah Tawba 9:123) was used by the Messenger of Allah as well as his close companions against those people who ATTACKED Islam, and oppressed the Muslims. When Abu Bakr became the leader, Islam came UNDER ATTACK (by Romans, idol worshipers etc). This means IF Muslims did NOT defend themselves and stop this oppression from the tyrants and hypocrites who attacked the Muslims and Islam, the religion would have been defeated. Hence, IN SELF DEFENSE and in this context, the Muslims are allowed to fight the unbelievers (i.e. tyrants, hypocrites etc) who ATTACK the religion and cause injustice first. But, at the same time Quran says:

Surah 2:190:
Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.

Surah 8:61:
And if they incline to peace, then incline to it [also] and rely upon Allah . Indeed, it is He who is the Hearing, the Knowing.

Examine Islam on your own

I do believe that the average person, no matter what sort of background they have, is a peace-loving person. However, there are always a handful of agitators that spoil everything for everyone else. Like those pedo-priests. No one every considers how horrible regular priests feel about this sort of thing. They just get caught up in the sensationalism of the media, and show an embarrassing amount of sheep-like characteristics by swallowing all this stuff that is fed to them.

Sure, we should all be on the look out for thieves and take steps to ensure the safety of our families, but you don’t know if someone will come trotting up to your door, open it, and put a gun to your head and pull the trigger. (most likely it would be a drug-starved teenager of dubious sanity) nevertheless,

…I forgot the rest of what I was going to say, but it sounds pretty good so far, doesn’t it?

Yes one thought comes to mind is how many women/young girls are being raped in Britain and other countries in which they immigrate to. Plus the fact that they like to live their lives as close to the way that the prophet Muhammad did. ie.. taking infidel women as slaves comes to mind. The Koran states that they keep the wives that they already have and look at no other no matter how beautiful they may be, but no wrong will be upon them if they sleep/take to their beds with their slaves. They do not consider taking infidels as slaves and sleeping with them as rape. All the slaves that their right hands possess are lawful to them as well as their wives.

This is the real reason why the Muslim women dress the way they do as not to be mistaken as an infidel and why they believe they are protected from rape as Muslim men will only take non Muslim women as slaves. The rest in the past were either murdered or taken as slaves or given to other Muslim men as wives. There were also places that they allowed them to live amongst them but they were taxed.

Sorry, if you disagree that History will not repeat itself and that is not repeating itself already in Britain and other places where the population of Muslims is growing.

The Koran also states for where population of Muslims is not that large yet to let them be for awhile.

Good Call. I’d say not all of them are violent. Only the extremists are. Honestly Al Kaider only use religion as an excuse like you said. Once again good call. And its nice to see another Atheist out there.

yes right and binlanden is the most peaceful of all well i doubt you are an atheist i know history too and i know what the muslims did to my country and yes you are also right about tolerance muslims are very tolerant that is why they bomb the churches and other temples in their countries and kill or burn non muslims and because you are an atheist i challenge you to do something muslims hate atheists so why do not you go to them and tell them you are an atheist then you will see how kind they are especially toward atheist

I’m always wondering the same thing. Nice point.

Muslims have every reason to assume that the entire world besides them is violent? Oh really? What would that reason be?

I see no such reason in what you have written. I mean, just take a look at what you wrote. You said Muslims have reason to assume that the entire friggin’ world besides them is violent. That is fallacious to the max.

muslims are good people
some countries are bad

in the muslims holy book the Koran its says to kill the infedel infidel means non muslim they deserve what they get

If you considering a job as a history teacher, don’t quit your day job.

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